Given any unfamiliarity with everything Altec, I can understand some confusion ( after seeing these pics ) over what woofers these actually are.

They are not the 416-8Z version of the 416-8B that most of us attribute to that ( Alnico ) number.

I'd state them as generic 416-8C ( ferrite ) woofers with the wrong dust-caps ( but with desirable cones ).

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